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Monday, November 03, 2003


You may want to check out 1Sa 7:8 and Luke 18:1-8.

There's the classic Matt 7:7 where the verbs (ask, seek, knock) are in the present imperative which Zodhiates says means a continued and repeated action.

Paul says he mentions the various churches in prayer often (Phil 1:4; Eph 1:16; Col 1:3; 1 Thes 1:2 Philemon 1:4).

Petitioning also requires listening.
If God is my Father, He is patient with repeated requests and tuned to the singular ones. I think He's just glad to have us come to His throne. It's a relationship, not brownie points to win. Blog on!

There's a lot in the Bible about the subjective purpose of prayer- that is, we pray to change ourselves, to submit our will to God as much as to change any events.

Matt. 6:5-13- The heathen think they'll be heard if they repeat themselves over and over, but God knows what we need already. So we pray, Thy Kingdom come, Thy will be done, before we pray for anything else.

Luke 22:45-46- Jesus tells his disciples to pray, to avoid temptation. The subjective response is what is in mind.

Phil. 4:6-7- Make all requests known unto God, and the result is "the peace which passeth all understanding".

God is sovereign and immutable. We will never change Him with our prayers. He frequently elects to work through them by His grace, but we pray to submit ourselves to His will, not to change Him.

These are all very good.

Let me add Luke 18:1-8. It's the parable Jesus tells of the woman and the unjust judge.

Verse one starts out: "Then Jesus told his disciples a parable to show them that they should always pray and not give up."

Of course it certainly is advisable to listen to the Lord, because He may give you what you want despite His having something better for you down the road. Case in point is when Israel went to Samuel and demanded a king because they wanted to be like their neighbors and even worse they were rejecting God as their king.

God told them it would be a bad idea and laid out to them just what would happen. Still they cried for a king and so he gave them Saul.

I think a righteous man, who knows God's will can get it in one shot. But a less righteous person may have to repeat the prayer, especially if the prayer is not God's will. In some cases as we repeat, we come to learn His will and the prayer may change. But I sure can appreciate the righteous man who has full confidence and a close relationship with God thinking that one time is enough.
But personally for me I would think myself a little arrogant. I like the idea that if you really want it, it is worth working for.

Yes, but what about the parable about the persistant woman and the judge? She kept asking and eventually her request was granted.

Through personal experience I have found that through prayer comes faith and often understanding as to what God's will is in my life. Talking to God about anything and everything is OK. God is our Father and for me it helps to talk to Him.

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